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mcgillianaire ([personal profile] mcgillianaire) wrote2011-07-03 11:30 am

Istanbul - Changing Demographics

In the 1930s when the population of this most cosmopolitan of cities used to be between 700-800,000 about 300,000 was made up of Greeks. There was also a significant number of Armenians and Jews. But today there are no more than 20,000 Jews; 50,000 Armenians and less than 3,000 Greeks out of a population between 13 and 16 million. By any measure that is a shockingly disappointing transformation. I'd still love to visit it though.

[identity profile] mcgillianaire.livejournal.com 2011-07-03 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
>I was shocked at how European it seemed
That's exactly how I'd've imagined it to be. Very interesting story. Istanbul (in its older incarnations) has fascinated me ever since I began reading world history books as a child. When I was in school I used to draw up trios of cities that I'd like to visit in a single trip. Istanbul was part of a group with Athens and Cairo. I've not been to the other two yet but my best friend is moving to Crete at the end of the month and it's pretty close to all three, so who knows!

When was the last time you were in Istanbul and when did you first visit it?

[identity profile] brinker.livejournal.com 2011-07-04 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
I wasn't particularly interested in it, until I visited. Then I fell in love with it. Of course, I've always been enamored by the Middle East, and this was the closest I'd come, so that may be part of why it appealed to me.

Athens is nice, although there are other parts of Greece I liked more. Cairo.... well.... I put Egypt in the category of things that you're very glad you've done, but it doesn't mean you enjoy it. I put stepping on a scorpion in that same category. But it is very worth seeing.

First time I was there was in 97. I worked there in 2001-2002. It hadn't changed all that much, just my perspectives had.

Happy Independence Day

[identity profile] mcgillianaire.livejournal.com 2011-07-04 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
Interesting stuff. Why did you not enjoy Cairo?

Re: Happy Independence Day

[identity profile] brinker.livejournal.com 2011-07-04 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I never enjoy cities, and Cairo was one of the biggest/smelliest/noisiest/etc. I've been in. But also the people were annoying. Pretty much everywhere you go, you get harassed, to the point of people getting downright angry and yelling at you and such if you don't give them money. Just not a pleasant place, all in all, in my opinion.

[identity profile] mcgillianaire.livejournal.com 2011-07-04 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting. Suppose that's a fair enough reason. Though my years of experiencing some of what you've described there in India should stand me in good stead!

[identity profile] brinker.livejournal.com 2011-07-05 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'd be curious how it relates to India. I suspect similar in many ways.

Which reminds me that I need to go send my passport off to get an Indian visa tomorrow... No specific plans for traveling there yet, but I will, so would rather have the visa out of the way.