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As most of you are aware, the Democrat primaries are underway and JFK the IInd is running away with it all. He hasn't won the nomination yet, and in fact he needs a further 1,500+ delegate votes in order to achieve such a victory. In the meanwhile, I decided to try my hand @ these two quizzy things related to American politics and the US Presidential Campaign.

Me, a radical left-winger?? Find out more

Far-Left Liberal
Where do you fall on the liberal - conservative political spectrum? (United States)

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My PresidentMatch.com score results.

1. Kucinich Score: 100%
2. Kerry Score: 100%
3. Sharpton Score: 99%
4. Dean Score: 97%
5. Edwards Score: 88%
6. Clark Score: 88%
7. Bush Score: 29%

For those who know I want Bush re-elected, it may come as a surprise to you that Bush is @ the bottom of my list with a score of 29%, nearly 60% off from the nearest challenger (Wesley Clark). But it makes sense. I'm not particularly keen on seeing Bush get re-elected because I support his demestic and some of his foreign policy agendas. Need I say he's got issues. =) I just think in terms of the GWOT, Indo-Pak relations, Iraq and BPO of the Service Sector it's better to keep him in to finish off the agenda as far as possible, than have someone like Kerry or worse, Dean come along and reverse the whole process.

Therefore, Bush deserves requires a 2nd term. Be my guest and slur me to death! ;-)

Date: 2004-02-09 01:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] dubaiwalla.livejournal.com
1 Kucinich Score: 100%
2 Sharpton Score: 98%
3 Kerry Score: 93%
4 Clark Score: 88%
5 Dean Score: 87%
6 Edwards Score: 78%
7 Bush Score: 15%

No surprise at the top or bottom, but Sharpton got 98%. I will have to look into his platform, irrelevant though he is due to his virtual unelectability.

Political spectrum

Date: 2004-02-10 11:58 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] dubaiwalla.livejournal.com
Liberal
Where do you fall on the liberal - conservative political spectrum? (United States)

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Strangely, it says I fall some way to the right of you (not that it was possible to go further left on that scale). Then again, this *is* Quizilla, and I wonder why I'm posting this at all...

Re: Political spectrum

Date: 2004-02-10 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcgillianaire.livejournal.com
Mr. Hypocrite. I quite distinctly remember you telling me how much you love these quiz thingies, yet every one I've put on my LJ till date you've participated in!

Even better? You've included your last one in the comment postings. So what's the deal, you either like 'em and do them, or you don't mind 'em and still do them. You can't not like them and still do 'em? =)

Re: Political spectrum

Date: 2004-02-10 08:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] dubaiwalla.livejournal.com
I like quizzes in general. It's Quizilla I have a problem with. Specifically, the sheer shallowness/stupidity of most of what they put up. It's as if every 13 year old alive uses their intraweb machine to come up with as lame a topic as they can think of. Consider what I found on my research visit to their site a few minutes ago:
Which dysfunctional Care Bear are you?
What shade of moonlight are you?
What kind of yarn are you?
On the other hand, if anyone was able to convince me that I was a dysfunctional Care Bear, shade of moonlight or type of yarn, I'd have far bigger worries than Quizilla anyway.
Put up something serious and I will stop my incessant attacks. This quiz, while at least well-intentioned, was still not particularly well-made.

Quizilla

Date: 2004-02-10 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcgillianaire.livejournal.com
Yes a lot, if not most of what it publishes is pure trash. The thing is though, I try not to publish the 'trashy' quizzes on my LJ.

This quiz, while at least well-intentioned, was still not particularly well-made.

Agreed, but it's not often we get these kinds of quizzes. Also, I had in mind putting together an entry on my thoughts on the Presidential campaign so it fitted in nicely together. =)

Re: Political spectrum

Date: 2004-02-10 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pappubahry.livejournal.com
I'm liberal too, but the test is misnamed. It's a social left-right spectrum, not a political one.

Date: 2004-02-09 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thebabynancy.livejournal.com
Deserves?

*refrains from engaging you in political discussion*

Re: Deserves?

Date: 2004-02-09 01:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcgillianaire.livejournal.com
Error is regretted! *wink* (Please refer to edit above)

Re: Deserves?

Date: 2004-02-09 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thebabynancy.livejournal.com
I've yet to see a world leader, Canada included, deserve the position they hold/held. But I sure as hell don't want the job... hence, my refrain.

To each their own, however.

:) Nancy

Re: Deserves?

Date: 2004-02-09 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcgillianaire.livejournal.com
I've yet to see a world leader, Canada included, deserve the position they hold/held.

Really? I think Canada has been an exemplary world leader, it's just a pity they don't have more too much more influence. Their foreign policy agenda has been quite remarkable in the past decade or so...


To each their own, however.

Indeed. =)

Re: Deserves?

Date: 2004-02-10 11:55 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] dubaiwalla.livejournal.com
Their foreign policy agenda has been quite remarkable in the past decade or so

And I'm sure their peacekeepers and money are welcome. But if they were large enough to matter significantly on the world stage as one the major players (which, with all due respect they're not, G8 status notwithstanding), would they still be playing their cards this way?

Canada, on the world scene

Date: 2004-02-10 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcgillianaire.livejournal.com
Yes, I believe so.

Many people make the terrible mistake of attributing little distinction between Canada and the US. I'm not saying you are, but in general people do.

There are lots of similar traits, norms and common interests but the differences are striking, and it is best seen in the way they approach their foreign policy.


which, with all due respect they're not
Funny you mention that, because for all business and economics purposes, Canada (alongwith the US, Japan and EU) are considered part of the 'Big Four' group of nations. At least that's what N.American university students are made to believe... ;-)

Re: Canada, on the world scene

Date: 2004-02-12 10:37 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] dubaiwalla.livejournal.com
Nothing to do with the US per se.

From my post at http://www.livejournal.com/users/lctrc_gtr_dde/7366.html?thread=5830#t5830 :

...while I strongly hope for a more powerful EU [...] I think that as it gets more powerful, it will slowly become less benign. As with [America], it too will be likely to have powerful vested interests throughout the world, and the means (and very possibly the will) to promote or defend them.

In a similar vein, I think that Canada is good to the world in some part because this is its best way of gaining influence, and a voice. (Sweden punched way above its weight internationally under Olof Palme for similar reasons, even becoming known as the conscience of the world.)

Canada is too small to intervene militarily in Bolivia, or employ trade sanctions to change domestic policies in Myanmar, but aid and peacekeepers can be used to build a good rep and improve the situation on the ground in certain trouble spots. However, these methods aren't nearly as powerful as some of those that the US has at its disposal, and indeed often uses. Who could Canada really influence by being mean?

Re: Canada, on the world scene

Date: 2004-02-13 06:08 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] dubaiwalla.livejournal.com
A better example just occurred to me: India's pre-Rao era relations with countries in its immediate vicinity (SAARC, Iran, China, China) + US / USSR were largely based on interest and therefore hostile more often than not (USSR being the major exception). India's relations with countries besides these, where it had no major interests were largely ethical (e.g. boycott of South Africa, cool relations with Israel).

Date: 2004-02-09 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pappubahry.livejournal.com
I go from Kerry 100% to Kucinich 67%; I appear to be well-matched to most of the candidates.

What were your other scores?

Date: 2004-02-09 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcgillianaire.livejournal.com
It is interesting how there is such a difference in your Kerry and Kucinich scores. In all the others that I've seen, mine included, the discrepency between the two has been marginal...

If it wasn't for events like 9/11 and the War on Iraq I don't think I'd have wanted Bush voted back in...

These Goddamn politics

Date: 2004-02-09 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buthan.livejournal.com
that is something interesting to notice. When u tell people of things that happen every day, like ure life, or the times u got drunk or smoked weed, u get at most a couple of replies.

Every time u post something related to politics, replies just start appearing out of nowhere. Is this world becoming insane by discussing to much politics (BTW, the most interesting thing is that u have no influence whatsoever in the election of the next president of the USA, so why the hell bother).

I hate politics and everything related to it. I appologize to any POLI SCI students, Arnav, Karun or to any politics fanatics around this place.

For me politics is just a plague. Well, I admit, we need politics, we need people to run the country and everything. But I just do not like it. A lot of talk and nothing to be done.

Well, excuse my inappropriate intervention and carry on with the debate on the next president of the USA.

Cris

Re: These Goddamn politics

Date: 2004-02-09 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arnav.livejournal.com
I suppose the appropriate response for Cris would be, "buuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrp".

Re: These Goddamn politics

Date: 2004-02-09 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcgillianaire.livejournal.com
that is indeed an amazing observation. didn't notice it too much before but you're right.

well what can i say, the most vociferous political activists are always students.

why? for the most part we don't have jobs yet so it's a lot easier to slur a politician than if u did and found out you were fired the next day.

till then, go g.w.bush! ;-)

PS coming from a former communist regime, it's not surprising you hate politics. in your democracy and civil society, beating ppl up for mistaking you as a hungarian or russian is rather intriguing. =)

Re: These Goddamn politics

Date: 2004-02-10 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buthan.livejournal.com
True... it is always better to have someone to swear when things go wrong. I think we should use Arnav as target practice for our first political attacks... And my answer to ure posting Arnav: "buuuuurrrrrrrrrppppppppppppppppppp"... Enjoy.

PS: yes, it is true that a person coming from a former communist country hates politics. And we have enough good reasons...

Take care and hope ure head feels better

Re: These Goddamn politics

Date: 2004-02-10 03:18 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] dubaiwalla.livejournal.com
I hate politics and everything related to it.
For me politics is just a plague.


Very simply put, if you don't take care of politics, politics will take care of you. Maybe I can't get rid of Bush by myself. But I know that if I can influence enough other people (OK so that's not happening in time for the next election, but still...) I can make a small difference to the way the US, or indeed the world is run. And I know that if I give up without trying, I'm abandoning the world, the only world I have, to people who might not give a damn about me and what I have to say, or what happens to me. And damned if I'm going to let them do what they want, selfish as that sounds.

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